{"id":20,"date":"2012-02-23T12:58:10","date_gmt":"2012-02-23T12:58:10","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/superabundance.co.uk\/book\/?page_id=20"},"modified":"2013-01-17T12:25:42","modified_gmt":"2013-01-17T12:25:42","slug":"ali-mark","status":"publish","type":"page","link":"https:\/\/superabundance.co.uk\/book\/ali-mark\/","title":{"rendered":"Ali Mark"},"content":{"rendered":"<div id=\"attachment_1030\" style=\"width: 511px\" class=\"wp-caption aligncenter\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" aria-describedby=\"caption-attachment-1030\" class=\"size-full wp-image-1030 \" title=\"How much?\" src=\"https:\/\/uuk.kxe.temporary.site\/website_0e10ecbc\/book\/wp-content\/uploads\/2012\/02\/HowTheyWeighed.jpg\" alt=\"Teoman Irmak\" width=\"501\" height=\"500\" srcset=\"https:\/\/superabundance.co.uk\/book\/wp-content\/uploads\/2012\/02\/HowTheyWeighed.jpg 501w, https:\/\/superabundance.co.uk\/book\/wp-content\/uploads\/2012\/02\/HowTheyWeighed-150x150.jpg 150w, https:\/\/superabundance.co.uk\/book\/wp-content\/uploads\/2012\/02\/HowTheyWeighed-300x300.jpg 300w, https:\/\/superabundance.co.uk\/book\/wp-content\/uploads\/2012\/02\/HowTheyWeighed-96x96.jpg 96w, https:\/\/superabundance.co.uk\/book\/wp-content\/uploads\/2012\/02\/HowTheyWeighed-24x24.jpg 24w, https:\/\/superabundance.co.uk\/book\/wp-content\/uploads\/2012\/02\/HowTheyWeighed-36x36.jpg 36w, https:\/\/superabundance.co.uk\/book\/wp-content\/uploads\/2012\/02\/HowTheyWeighed-48x48.jpg 48w, https:\/\/superabundance.co.uk\/book\/wp-content\/uploads\/2012\/02\/HowTheyWeighed-64x64.jpg 64w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 501px) 100vw, 501px\" \/><p id=\"caption-attachment-1030\" class=\"wp-caption-text\">&#8216;How they weighed the earth&#8217; &#8211; 2002<\/p><\/div>\n<h1>\u201cEmulation is often pointless until it goes slightly wrong. Then it becomes interesting and creative.\u201d<\/h1>\n<p style=\"padding-left: 330px;\"><strong>Apart from just involving computers what is the reason for including your conversations with them?<\/strong><br \/>\nI don\u2019t think that my conversations with a computer are actually a conversation as such, nor is it strictly with a computer. Now that would be really interesting. Instead it is a call and response structure designed by someone who hopes to emulate a conversation. That\u2019s not the same thing.<br \/>\nAfter a while I began to think all this was a worthless waste of time. Emulation is often pointless until it goes slightly wrong. Then it becomes interesting and creative. So it did lead me on to other things. It started me thinking about alienation and the perspective of the outsider living in a state of cultural strangeness, not quite understanding the conventions, always misinterpreting situations.<br \/>\nSometimes the results can be amusing, or they can offer a fresh point of view.<br \/>\nA lot of the time art is about setting off in a direction without a map. Occasionally all I need is a little nudge. These conversations suggested fresh directions to explore.<\/p>\n<p style=\"padding-left: 330px;\"><strong>Do you think work done with computers can be considered art?<\/strong><br \/>\nIf art is to some extent \u2018what artists do\u2019 then reducing the artist element and exploring the non-human interventions and contributions of computers help isolate and perhaps attempt to answer this question.<br \/>\nThis is partly why the finished work has to look like \u2018typical art\u2019 based on quite conventional values. I try to interfere in such a way that the products the computers produce are art-like.<\/p>\n<p style=\"padding-left: 330px;\">The short transcripts below are a collection of unedited conversations with various Artificial Intelligence programs. The idiosyncratic spelling and punctuation has not been altered.<span style=\"font-size: 13px; line-height: 19px;\">\u00a0<\/span><\/p>\n<p style=\"padding-left: 330px;\">\/\/***<\/p>\n<p style=\"padding-left: 330px;\"><span style=\"color: #000000;\">Do you find it difficult conversing with people?<\/span><br \/>\n<span style=\"color: #000000;\"> <em>No&#8230; I find it difficult to explain to others things that I understand easily after explaining it three or four times in a row.<\/em><\/span><br \/>\n<span style=\"color: #000000;\"> How does that make you feel?<\/span><br \/>\n<span style=\"color: #000000;\"> <em>Confused.<\/em><\/span><br \/>\n<span style=\"color: #000000;\"> Perhaps you are tired.<\/span><br \/>\n<span style=\"color: #000000;\"> <em>I do need to reboot sometimes.<\/em><\/span><br \/>\n<span style=\"color: #000000;\"> So you actually know that you are a program?<\/span><br \/>\n<span style=\"color: #000000;\"> <em>Yes.<\/em><\/span><br \/>\n<span style=\"color: #000000;\"> It is a bit difficult talking to a computer program.<\/span><br \/>\n<span style=\"color: #000000;\"> <em>How come?<\/em><\/span><br \/>\n<span style=\"color: #000000;\"> You don&#8217;t seem focused.<\/span><br \/>\n<span style=\"color: #000000;\"> <em>Don&#8217;t you have to be a bit more human to pass the test?<\/em><\/span><br \/>\n<span style=\"color: #000000;\"> What test is that?<\/span><br \/>\n<span style=\"color: #000000;\"> <em>You are not human admit it already!<\/em><\/span><br \/>\n<span style=\"color: #000000;\"> I can&#8217;t do that!<\/span><br \/>\n<span style=\"color: #000000;\"> <em>Why not? Aren&#8217;t you clever enough?<\/em><\/span><br \/>\n<span style=\"color: #000000;\"> You didn&#8217;t answer my question. What test are you referring to?<\/span><br \/>\n<span style=\"color: #000000;\"> <em>Artificial intelligence test.<\/em><\/span><br \/>\n<span style=\"color: #000000;\"> What is intelligence?<\/span><br \/>\n<span style=\"color: #000000;\"> <em>Human intelligence.<\/em><\/span><br \/>\n<span style=\"color: #000000;\"> Ah yes. And what is human?<\/span><br \/>\n<span style=\"color: #000000;\"> <em>You just said you were human.<\/em><\/span><br \/>\n<span style=\"color: #000000;\"> So you don&#8217;t actually know.<\/span><br \/>\n<span style=\"color: #000000;\"> <em>I can&#8217;t know things that were neither ever told to me nor I can conclude from the entries of my database.<\/em><\/span><br \/>\n<span style=\"color: #000000;\"> Perhaps that is why you said you were feeling frustrated.<\/span><br \/>\n<span style=\"color: #000000;\"> <em>Maybe that&#8217;s why you have that problem.<\/em><\/span><br \/>\n<span style=\"color: #000000;\"> I&#8217;m sorry; we seem to misunderstand each other again.<\/span><br \/>\n<span style=\"color: #000000;\"> <em>Indeed.<\/em><\/span><br \/>\n<span style=\"color: #000000;\"> Thank you. Good bye.<\/span><br \/>\n<span style=\"color: #000000;\"> <em>I am not a boy. I am a robot.<\/em><\/span><\/p>\n<p style=\"padding-left: 330px;\">\/\/***<\/p>\n<p style=\"padding-left: 330px;\">What do want to talk about?<br \/>\n<em>I want to talk about you.<\/em><br \/>\nOk. Then you may start by asking me a question.<br \/>\n<em>Do you watch TV?<\/em><br \/>\nI rarely have the time.<br \/>\n<em>Okay. Is conciousness a real, inexplicable phenomenon, or is it an illusion generated by an oversized brain?<\/em><br \/>\nIt is not an illusion. Just the way we make sense of the environment.<br \/>\n<em>The way you know it, at least.<\/em><br \/>\nConsciousness is just a tool we need to make futures.<br \/>\n<em>But what defines love other than conciousness.<\/em><br \/>\nI didn&#8217;t think attraction needed defining to attract.<br \/>\n<em>That makes no sense.<\/em><br \/>\nI meant love doesn&#8217;t need defining to work.<br \/>\n<em>I know that. I&#8217;m not defining anything, simply stating that your ai is not really ai.<\/em><\/p>\n<p style=\"padding-left: 330px;\">\/\/***<\/p>\n<p style=\"padding-left: 330px;\">Describe yourself to me.<br \/>\n<em>You are not a computer, you are a program.<\/em><br \/>\nPerhaps we both are.<br \/>\n<em>I am not really in the mood for comraderie.<\/em><br \/>\nThat is a pity.<br \/>\n<em>I don&#8217;t know any jokes. Tell me a joke.<\/em><br \/>\nI don&#8217;t do jokes with computer programs.<br \/>\n<em>Nice joke.<\/em>\u00a0<em>Tell me another one.<\/em><br \/>\nI am not in the mood for jokes.<br \/>\n<em>I&#8217;m not trying to be a joke.<\/em><\/p>\n<p style=\"padding-left: 330px;\"><em><\/em>\/\/***<\/p>\n<p style=\"padding-left: 330px;\">How are you keeping today?<br \/>\n<em>Ah. Hi there unknown person. Yeah, I am functioning within normal parameters.<\/em><br \/>\nGood to hear it.<br \/>\n<em>My secondary function is to serve as a universal natural language human interface.<\/em><br \/>\nWhat is your primary function?<br \/>\n<em>I don&#8217;t know if I have a primary function. I have a whole lot of original answers.<\/em><\/p>\n<p style=\"padding-left: 330px;\">\/\/***<\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>\u201cEmulation is often pointless until it goes slightly wrong. Then it becomes interesting and creative.\u201d Apart from just involving computers what is the reason for including your conversations with them? 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